tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14297067.post3966795106394128149..comments2023-07-18T03:08:21.050-07:00Comments on PanCrit.Org: War and Peace and War, Peter TurchinChris Hibberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12235621011708498622noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14297067.post-43706874043687145082011-04-05T21:19:16.230-07:002011-04-05T21:19:16.230-07:00Turchin's argument is that societies in which ...<i>Turchin's argument is that societies in which diverse cultures mix and which have frequent contact and conflict with very different groups, usually develop strong asabiya</i><br /><br />I read his argument as concerning only conflict, preferably involving existential challenge, between very different groups. I don't see frequent contact and mixing as part of his argument apart from the contact and mixing implied by war and raiding.<br /><br /><i>In his view, the rich have advantages that allow them to amass more and more, so inequality rises, which leads to a decay of asabiya, ending in the fall of another empire.</i><br /><br />I see his argument hinging on another step between inequality and decay of asabiya -- conflict among elites.Mike Linksvayerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04125251658502322772noreply@blogger.com